Comments on: Nikkeijin – The Japanese Peruvians http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/ exploring japan Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:12:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: LLP’s 2011 Year In Blogging | LLP http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-25779 LLP’s 2011 Year In Blogging | LLP Sun, 01 Jan 2012 12:04:28 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-25779 [...] Your most commented on post in 2011 was Nikkeijin – The Japanese Peruvians. [...] [...] Your most commented on post in 2011 was Nikkeijin – The Japanese Peruvians. [...]

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-23634 Marco Sat, 03 Dec 2011 21:04:35 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-23634 Polynesians had South American roots: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8582150/Kon-Tiki-explorer-was-partly-right-Polynesians-had-South-American-roots.html Polynesians had South American roots:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8582150/Kon-Tiki-explorer-was-partly-right-Polynesians-had-South-American-roots.html

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22719 Marco Sat, 19 Nov 2011 07:10:40 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22719 Lima is a good example in going back in looking to a place with historical eyes. Until the 40s and 50s Lima was a great city, it was called the garden city with lots of parks, no shanty towns... but Peru was kind of a country of two countries, Lima and some major cities with mostly non native Peruvians including the European and Asian Peruvians and the rest of the Country with a majority of natives. The many years of neglect toward the natives created a big immigration of this Peruvians into the Capital seeking a better life and jobs thus creating the new Lima with its Shanty towns and chaotic traffic less water, etc. A good example of bad planning and bad distribution of wealth in a country. This also may explain the unjust discrimination toward the indigenous people. Here is a film of Lima from 1937... this is the Lima that the Japanese Peruvians left when they were betrayed by the Peruvian government and given to the Americans to be sent to concentration camps in the U.S: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqRl0XPXMoY&feature=related Lima is a good example in going back in looking to a place with historical eyes.
Until the 40s and 50s Lima was a great city, it was called the garden city with lots of parks, no shanty towns… but Peru was kind of a country of two countries, Lima and some major cities with mostly non native Peruvians including the European and Asian Peruvians and the rest of the Country with a majority of natives.
The many years of neglect toward the natives created a big immigration of this Peruvians into the Capital seeking a better life and jobs thus creating the new Lima with its Shanty towns and chaotic traffic less water, etc. A good example of bad planning and bad distribution of wealth in a country. This also may explain the unjust discrimination toward the indigenous people. Here is a film of Lima from 1937… this is the Lima that the Japanese Peruvians left when they were betrayed by the Peruvian government and given to the Americans to be sent to concentration camps in the U.S:

]]> By: Nunnster http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22713 Nunnster Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:00:07 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22713 I love this website. Not only do I het a laugh from many of the articles posted, but every now and again I get an education on matters away from the focus of mainstream media. I have come to realise just how shallow I am, because if it wasn't for posts on Japanese used-panty vending machines, I would not have subscribed and thus missed posts such as this gem and the contributions which followed. Thanks LLP. Regards, Shallow Hal I love this website. Not only do I het a laugh from many of the articles posted, but every now and again I get an education on matters away from the focus of mainstream media. I have come to realise just how shallow I am, because if it wasn’t for posts on Japanese used-panty vending machines, I would not have subscribed and thus missed posts such as this gem and the contributions which followed.
Thanks LLP.
Regards,
Shallow Hal

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22707 Marco Sat, 19 Nov 2011 03:04:02 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22707 FOOD FOR THOUGHT To be able to perceive well and judge new countries and cultures we must have a good historical, geographical and political education otherwise we are looking at them through a myopic prism full of stereotypes and misconceptions. When I went to the U.S. (which I have driven coast to coast) I found out that the average American with a high-school diploma (and some with a College one) had a very low level of knowledge and interest of History and Geography... (I knew more American history that many of them).... they hate communism (which I do to) but if you asked them if they have read Marx they have no Idea what it is... at first it did not bother me since they are good people and very civilized... but later when I thought this citizens of probably the greatest country on Earth have the privilege and blessing to vote and decide who is going to be the most powerful man on the Planet I got disturbed... no wonder they elected Bush... and almost put someone like Sara Palin as their vice president... scary... many did not know even where Peru is located. Don’t take me wrong... I love the U.S. and what they have done good for the world... and I am the number one admirer of their founding fathers, some of the greatest men in human history... they gave the world the Renaissance of politics and government which did not happen in Florence... but seems that some Americans think that their founding fathers where the Pilgrims of the Mayflower or some of those puritans that were burning witches in Salem... and not the Intellectuals like Jefferson, Adams, Franklin etc. who by the way where Deists and not religious fanatics and that is why they made sure of the separation of church and state... unlike what some of their mid-west religious lunatics want... With respect to the Asians I do not blame them for their distrust of us “Westerners” all we have to do is look at history... lets take as an example the Chinese, they had a navy that could have conquered the world before even Columbus set foot in America but there was no Chinese expansionism but European one... I think that Blaise Pascal got it right when he wrote: "The trouble with western man is, he does not know how to be content in a empty room." Here is a quote of a Chinese when the Europeans arrived in China: "These barbarians have a grim look - untidy hair - and unpleasant smell about them. They have no rituals worthy of the name. They are liars and rather arrogant. They conquer countries by fraud and then by force. They ingratiate themselves in a friendly way before they conquer the natives. At the heart of their conduct is violence." Lets not forget the Opium war between the Brits and the Chinese... In the 19th century Opium was the biggest single trade anywhere. An infernal triangle the Brits created between India, China and Britain ( it parallels the other infernal triangle In the 18th century of Slavery between Britain, the Americas and Africa).... Is as if today the Colombian barons posses such a powerful fit that they will be able to sail into San Francisco and compel a large portion of the population of the United States to become addicted to heroin and cocaine and to wipe out the U.S. fleet if it intervene. In what the British prime minister William Gladstone said it was the most disreputable war ever fought by the British... the Chinese were smashed to pieces... defeated by the very technology that they had invented... and to watch how the western “barbarians” took over their land... Chinese people where treated like animals in their own land... time for revolution arrived after years of famine civil war and foreign rule... it came in the form of communism... which is now transforming... and perhaps they in route to become the next world power with some Confucianism in business that is apply in Japan and South Korea... I hope and pray that they do not become imperialists like us westerners and keep their Confucian traditions which were more humane than ours.... Please excuse my English since is not my native language. FOOD FOR THOUGHT

To be able to perceive well and judge new countries and cultures we must have a good historical, geographical and political education otherwise we are looking at them through a myopic prism full of stereotypes and misconceptions.

When I went to the U.S. (which I have driven coast to coast) I found out that the average American with a high-school diploma (and some with a College one) had a very low level of knowledge and interest of History and Geography… (I knew more American history that many of them)…. they hate communism (which I do to) but if you asked them if they have read Marx they have no Idea what it is… at first it did not bother me since they are good people and very civilized… but later when I thought this citizens of probably the greatest country on Earth have the privilege and blessing to vote and decide who is going to be the most powerful man on the Planet I got disturbed… no wonder they elected Bush… and almost put someone like Sara Palin as their vice president… scary… many did not know even where Peru is located.

Don’t take me wrong… I love the U.S. and what they have done good for the world… and I am the number one admirer of their founding fathers, some of the greatest men in human history… they gave the world the Renaissance of politics and government which did not happen in Florence… but seems that some Americans think that their founding fathers where the Pilgrims of the Mayflower or some of those puritans that were burning witches in Salem… and not the Intellectuals like Jefferson, Adams, Franklin etc. who by the way where Deists and not religious fanatics and that is why they made sure of the separation of church and state… unlike what some of their mid-west religious lunatics want…

With respect to the Asians I do not blame them for their distrust of us “Westerners” all we have to do is look at history… lets take as an example the Chinese, they had a navy that could have conquered the world before even Columbus set foot in America but there was no Chinese expansionism but European one… I think that Blaise Pascal got it right when he wrote:
“The trouble with western man is, he does not know how to be content in a empty room.”
Here is a quote of a Chinese when the Europeans arrived in China:
“These barbarians have a grim look – untidy hair – and unpleasant smell about them. They have no rituals worthy of the name. They are liars and rather arrogant. They conquer countries by fraud and then by force. They ingratiate themselves in a friendly way before they conquer the natives. At the heart of their conduct is violence.”

Lets not forget the Opium war between the Brits and the Chinese… In the 19th century Opium was the biggest single trade anywhere. An infernal triangle the Brits created between India, China and Britain ( it parallels the other infernal triangle In the 18th century of Slavery between Britain, the Americas and Africa)…. Is as if today the Colombian barons posses such a powerful fit that they will be able to sail into San Francisco and compel a large portion of the population of the United States to become addicted to heroin and cocaine and to wipe out the U.S. fleet if it intervene.

In what the British prime minister William Gladstone said it was the most disreputable war ever fought by the British… the Chinese were smashed to pieces… defeated by the very technology that they had invented… and to watch how the western “barbarians” took over their land… Chinese people where treated like animals in their own land… time for revolution arrived after years of famine civil war and foreign rule… it came in the form of communism… which is now transforming… and perhaps they in route to become the next world power with some Confucianism in business that is apply in Japan and South Korea… I hope and pray that they do not become imperialists like us westerners and keep their Confucian traditions which were more humane than ours….

Please excuse my English since is not my native language.

]]> By: scott j http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22684 scott j Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:09:14 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22684 Thanks Marco! I love Peru and the people! Thanks Marco! I love Peru and the people!

]]> By: scott j http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22683 scott j Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:05:57 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22683 You know your stuff Marco! You know your stuff Marco!

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22650 Marco Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:08:25 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22650 Correction, I found in this website that the Guadalajara area is home to 50,000 North American expatriates... go to: http://www.transitionsabroad.com/publications/magazine/0405/retirement_in_mexico.shtml Correction, I found in this website that the Guadalajara area is home to 50,000 North American expatriates… go to:
http://www.transitionsabroad.com/publications/magazine/0405/retirement_in_mexico.shtml

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22648 Marco Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:58:58 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22648 Joellen I agree with Scott. Actually I think many of us Peruvians look up to the Japanese we associate them with honesty, smarts, and hard work. Our sad reality, and is shameful, is that we still have some racism toward the natives, thank God this is in decline compare to when I was a kid. What scares me and not only in Peru is that in many parts of the world will see some decline on racism but a surge on Classism between the rich and poor. But going back to the theme of immigrating to Latin America probably Peru is one of the best places if you are from Asian ancestry... a Chinese American friend who came to Lima once told me that it was the first place in Latin America where he did not feel foreing... now... what I recommend to you is to check all countries at the moment you decide to retire specially the cost of living and security... a few years ago Argentina was a great place to be (if you are an American) due to the exchange rate between the Dollar and the peso... many Americans now immigrate or retire to Costa Rica, Panama (check out Boquete) and there is even a big American Colony in Guadalajara, Mexico with about ten to fifteen thousand Americans. Guadalajara is considered to have the second best climate in the world (after Nairobi), low property taxes & high return on invested capital. Joellen
I agree with Scott. Actually I think many of us Peruvians look up to the Japanese we associate them with honesty, smarts, and hard work. Our sad reality, and is shameful, is that we still have some racism toward the natives, thank God this is in decline compare to when I was a kid. What scares me and not only in Peru is that in many parts of the world will see some decline on racism but a surge on Classism between the rich and poor. But going back to the theme of immigrating to Latin America probably Peru is one of the best places if you are from Asian ancestry… a Chinese American friend who came to Lima once told me that it was the first place in Latin America where he did not feel foreing… now… what I recommend to you is to check all countries at the moment you decide to retire specially the cost of living and security… a few years ago Argentina was a great place to be (if you are an American) due to the exchange rate between the Dollar and the peso… many Americans now immigrate or retire to Costa Rica, Panama (check out Boquete) and there is even a big American Colony in Guadalajara, Mexico with about ten to fifteen thousand Americans. Guadalajara is considered to have the second best climate in the world (after Nairobi), low property taxes & high return on invested capital.

]]> By: Marco http://www.loneleeplanet.com/2010/01/nikkeijin-the-japanese-peruvians/comment-page-1/#comment-22647 Marco Fri, 18 Nov 2011 05:37:13 +0000 http://www.loneleeplanet.com/?p=6223#comment-22647 Scott As a Peruvian all I can say to you is thank you from the bottom of my heart, we are so lucky to have people like you coming here to do so much good in such an unselfish way. We are blessed to have you and I consider you more Peruvian than many that have been born here. Scott
As a Peruvian all I can say to you is thank you from the bottom of my heart, we are so lucky to have people like you coming here to do so much good in such an unselfish way. We are blessed to have you and I consider you more Peruvian than many that have been born here.

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